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Nov 14, 2019 21:13:33 GMT -7
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Post by Mama's Boi on Nov 14, 2019 21:13:33 GMT -7
"Stop being a dunce Mate. All you are doing is reinforcing why he has issues with you. I know you ain't just a big angry guy. Show him." Jamie looked at David. "And he has a name David. This is Hulk. You are David. Talk to him like a person, this is your chance to see what others see. Abuse it." Jamie smiled. "Amirght Hulk?" "Actually, it was McGee who gave it that name in the National Register, and we're trying to avoid that a-hole as much as we can." said Blake. "Hell, even the dunces who read the Register call him that. So yeah, if we had to give it a name, it would have to be either "ARRRRHHHH" or the one Thor gave him: ugly troll." The creature just tilted his head when he heard Blake talking. He didn't understand anything that was being talked about.
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Post by President Doom on Nov 15, 2019 5:55:08 GMT -7
"Tell that to the Multiverse. Sorry folks, but it's kind of universal. Banner goes green, he's Hulk. Ask them." He pointed to the X-Men. "They have their own Hulk named after him. And then there is the cousin, Change it now and she ain't a She-Hulk no more." Jamie reminded them. "If he wants a name change, it's up to him." He turned to Hulk. "You can try talking if you wanna, it's ok. They wanna listen. I know it's hard buddy. No one really has asked you. Some of the rules are different right now. You might be able to...if I am helping." He put his hand on him. "What do you wanna say Big Fella?"
"I thought this version couldn't?" Xi'an asked.
"I just bloody hinted that I am kinda giving him a lesson here by altering reality enough to allow him the capacity. Besides, it's only a matter of when, not if. Guy is part of a physicist. Technically he is also a PhD. He just has to get there over time and grow. Just like the other ones." Jamie explained.
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Nov 15, 2019 6:59:39 GMT -7
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Post by Mama's Boi on Nov 15, 2019 6:59:39 GMT -7
"Tell that to the Multiverse. Sorry folks, but it's kind of universal. Banner goes green, he's Hulk. Ask them." He pointed to the X-Men. "They have their own Hulk named after him. And then there is the cousin, Change it now and she ain't a She-Hulk no more." Jamie reminded them. "If he wants a name change, it's up to him." He turned to Hulk. "You can try talking if you wanna, it's ok. They wanna listen. I know it's hard buddy. No one really has asked you. Some of the rules are different right now. You might be able to...if I am helping." He put his hand on him. "What do you wanna say Big Fella?" "I thought this version couldn't?" Xi'an asked. "I just bloody hinted that I am kinda giving him a lesson here by altering reality enough to allow him the capacity. Besides, it's only a matter of when, not if. Guy is part of a physicist. Technically he is also a PhD. He just has to get there over time and grow. Just like the other ones." Jamie explained. "Rrrrrrrr... rrrrrrgh." growled the creature, still not grasping the concept of talking. "O-other ones?" uttered Banner nervously.
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Post by President Doom on Nov 15, 2019 8:11:26 GMT -7
"Well...multiverse Theory Mate. You and...more often than not, a fella by the name of Bruce who is born instead of you most times...not all. the brother you never had basically...usually go through a variation of the same ordeals that lead to you getting Gamma Mutated." Jamie said. "Of course I grasp this stuff easy now. Like I said. My types problem is we see everything at once and have to...find a way to pick and choose. i mean it's like...some places someone else is born, some places you are a girl, some places you got a different heritage...or just ain't. All options exist."
"So is choice irrelevant?" Meanstreak said.
"Mate, just because other choices happen elsewhere, don't mean it ain't. What if option B means death? So what if someone else somewhere decided to eat out instead of making a sandwich? He got hit by a car. He's dead. His future is over. You exist so the options can exist. they exist so yours does. You don't exist when you should, it's a missing thread, and then the whole blanket looks like shit." Jamie said to him. "Most people don't see it like that when they ask that question. Now him, David's are less common, is that bad? No. They stand out more, are more special than a sea of Robert Bruce Banner's. He is what happens if his Mom doesn't marry that arse Brian Banner...cuz he didn't get born either....at least...not the abusive version. Not really looking into Geneology here."
"Hulk, look at me. Try saying Hi." Krytalin said. "That is a good start. Like this, Hi." She said as she waved.
"You are having fun with this." Skullfire said.
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Nov 15, 2019 8:21:59 GMT -7
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Post by Mama's Boi on Nov 15, 2019 8:21:59 GMT -7
"Well...multiverse Theory Mate. You and...more often than not, a fella by the name of Bruce who is born instead of you most times...not all. the brother you never had basically...usually go through a variation of the same ordeals that lead to you getting Gamma Mutated." Jamie said. "Of course I grasp this stuff easy now. Like I said. My types problem is we see everything at once and have to...find a way to pick and choose. i mean it's like...some places someone else is born, some places you are a girl, some places you got a different heritage...or just ain't. All options exist." "So is choice irrelevant?" Meanstreak said. "Mate, just because other choices happen elsewhere, don't mean it ain't. What if option B means death? So what if someone else somewhere decided to eat out instead of making a sandwich? He got hit by a car. He's dead. His future is over. You exist so the options can exist. they exist so yours does. You don't exist when you should, it's a missing thread, and then the whole blanket looks like shit." Jamie said to him. "Most people don't see it like that when they ask that question. Now him, David's are less common, is that bad? No. They stand out more, are more special than a sea of Robert Bruce Banner's. He is what happens if his Mom doesn't marry that arse Brian Banner...cuz he didn't get born either....at least...not the abusive version. Not really looking into Geneology here." "Hulk, look at me. Try saying Hi." Krytalin said. "That is a good start. Like this, Hi." She said as she waved. "You are having fun with this." Skullfire said. "Boy... this is heavy." said Blake. "Well, abusive or not... I guess not getting along with my father is a constant, though we settled our differences and accepted and forgave each other when I last saw him." said Banner. "Hhhhhh... hhhhhhhhh... hhhhhhiiiiiiiii..." uttered the Hulk, still struggling to speak. He didn't know what that meant, but if he was going to stay here, he might as well do as they said.
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Post by President Doom on Nov 15, 2019 9:54:10 GMT -7
Jamie looked at him. "That's a greeting big guy. And don't worry. You gotta copy fer a while to understand, but see, he is capable of speaking. He just hasn't developed enough to put meaning to it. But he can...cuz his brain is yours." He looked at David. "He has the capacity to learn. So the question is...what do you take from that? What if you can take this further...and teach him what you think he needs to know?"
"That basically is how it starts with infancy, mimicry opens up their mind to cognition. Now that he can say Hi...he will want to learn what it means, how to use it and such." Meanstreak nodded as he stared. "And now my mind goes to the CEO's cloning works." He looked at Hulk. "Basically Jamie sped him along a bit mentally I assume to get to the point where he can begin the process."
"Indeed, usually they are at least at Hulk Smash levels of talking. Crude third person verbal dialogue, which hides the greater intelligence." Jamie stared. "Nah...not gonna cheat it anymore. You both need to learn together. David needs some growin' too." He looked at him. "Hulk...do you know who he is by name?" He pointed at David. "You know in your heart and your mind. Say how it sounds."
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Nov 15, 2019 10:23:19 GMT -7
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Post by Mama's Boi on Nov 15, 2019 10:23:19 GMT -7
Jamie looked at him. "That's a greeting big guy. And don't worry. You gotta copy fer a while to understand, but see, he is capable of speaking. He just hasn't developed enough to put meaning to it. But he can...cuz his brain is yours." He looked at David. "He has the capacity to learn. So the question is...what do you take from that? What if you can take this further...and teach him what you think he needs to know?" "That basically is how it starts with infancy, mimicry opens up their mind to cognition. Now that he can say Hi...he will want to learn what it means, how to use it and such." Meanstreak nodded as he stared. "And now my mind goes to the CEO's cloning works." He looked at Hulk. "Basically Jamie sped him along a bit mentally I assume to get to the point where he can begin the process." "Indeed, usually they are at least at Hulk Smash levels of talking. Crude third person verbal dialogue, which hides the greater intelligence." Jamie stared. "Nah...not gonna cheat it anymore. You both need to learn together. David needs some growin' too." He looked at him. "Hulk...do you know who he is by name?" He pointed at David. "You know in your heart and your mind. Say how it sounds." The creature looked at Banner and growled. He hated Banner. "BUUUUUHHHHHH... HHHHNNNN!!!" was the most the creature could say while being extremely angry and starting to lash out. "The troll lost it again!!!" uttered Thor.
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Post by President Doom on Nov 15, 2019 10:32:51 GMT -7
Jamie held out his hands. "STOP!!" He focused his power to immobilize him. "Hulk. I made you physical, I can put you back in. Yes, that is Banner. But that is also you. You are him." He looked at David. "Look in his eyes. Do you see it, behind the rage? The fear?"
Shakti put his hand on Hulk's cheek. "Relax, you are safe Hulk. Listen to my voice. I am a friend." She spoke in a soothing tone. "It's ok."
"Fear?" Meanstreak asked.
"Well, David is trying to keep him locked away and basically kill him with a 'cure'. How would it make you feel if someone you are close to tried to shank you with an X-Gene cure?" Jamie said to him. "He doesn't want to die."
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Nov 15, 2019 10:56:42 GMT -7
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Post by Mama's Boi on Nov 15, 2019 10:56:42 GMT -7
Jamie held out his hands. "STOP!!" He focused his power to immobilize him. "Hulk. I made you physical, I can put you back in. Yes, that is Banner. But that is also you. You are him." He looked at David. "Look in his eyes. Do you see it, behind the rage? The fear?" Shakti put his hand on Hulk's cheek. "Relax, you are safe Hulk. Listen to my voice. I am a friend." She spoke in a soothing tone. "It's ok." "Fear?" Meanstreak asked. "Well, David is trying to keep him locked away and basically kill him with a 'cure'. How would it make you feel if someone you are close to tried to shank you with an X-Gene cure?" Jamie said to him. "He doesn't want to die." The creature relaxed and sat down, his growls sounding as if he was crying. "He... he's crying." said Psylocke.
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Post by President Doom on Nov 15, 2019 11:10:22 GMT -7
"He understands." Jamie said. "I wanted you to see this David. You keep seeing him as a disease. But when was the last time you saw a virus cry?" He looked at him. "You didn't gain another psychosis or a health issue mate. That brain is literally room for two. You're trying to abort a second life, only it'd be lying saying you are doing that to a 5 year old with a baseball bat. And one you cannot separate from, most because I could but then Mr. Blue Skinned Bloody Space Rock would come in and undo. Because that is an ending not earned...to speak like that fat toad Mojo."
Jamie looked at him. "Trust me, I got a different brain too. I don't got another bloke innit but...my brain scares me too. But you are lucky. You ain't alone. He's in there too. He doesn't hate you because you exist. He wants you to understand him, he wants you...to want him." He then hugged him. "It's ok to be different mate. It don't make you a monster. That's up to your choices."
He let him go. "And I am doing this to help you find the real choice...cuz I want you to be the best you. Cuz if you are dating my Dear Betsy...you gotta meet my standards mate." Jamie smiled. "Dad ain't here to weigh in, and Brian is too bloody soft hearted. We both see the good in ya, no doubts there, but my angle...is closer to home." He unfroze the Hulk. "There you go big fella. I think he's processing this well. It's ok Mate." He looked at Psylocke. "I mean you got from fer two in that heart of yours, don'tcha Betsy?"
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Nov 15, 2019 11:33:21 GMT -7
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Post by Mama's Boi on Nov 15, 2019 11:33:21 GMT -7
"He understands." Jamie said. "I wanted you to see this David. You keep seeing him as a disease. But when was the last time you saw a virus cry?" He looked at him. "You didn't gain another psychosis or a health issue mate. That brain is literally room for two. You're trying to abort a second life, only it'd be lying saying you are doing that to a 5 year old with a baseball bat. And one you cannot separate from, most because I could but then Mr. Blue Skinned Bloody Space Rock would come in and undo. Because that is an ending not earned...to speak like that fat toad Mojo." Jamie looked at him. "Trust me, I got a different brain too. I don't got another bloke innit but...my brain scares me too. But you are lucky. You ain't alone. He's in there too. He doesn't hate you because you exist. He wants you to understand him, he wants you...to want him." He then hugged him. "It's ok to be different mate. It don't make you a monster. That's up to your choices." He let him go. "And I am doing this to help you find the real choice...cuz I want you to be the best you. Cuz if you are dating my Dear Betsy...you gotta meet my standards mate." Jamie smiled. "Dad ain't here to weigh in, and Brian is too bloody soft hearted. We both see the good in ya, no doubts there, but my angle...is closer to home." He unfroze the Hulk. "There you go big fella. I think he's processing this well. It's ok Mate." He looked at Psylocke. "I mean you got from fer two in that heart of yours, don'tcha Betsy?" Banner looked at the creature with curiosity. He had never seen it face to face before. However, the creature turned around and started walking away, wanting to be left alone and at peace. "Well, I guess he still doesn't like him." said Psylocke as she looked at the creature walk away from David. "Gonna be tough. And yeah, Jamie, I think I have room for two."
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Post by President Doom on Nov 15, 2019 12:03:05 GMT -7
"Like I was fun in my confusion. But it is a first good step. You saw it too huh? For a second, I think they locked eyes and it's begun to click. Maybe they are beginning to see a person instead of a problem in the other. Hulk is wrong too in his own way. Lashing out. But his is a crime of ignorance. He doesn't have a lifetime like Davey does. He wants help but he don't know how to ask, so it's a crime of ignorance." He looked at her. "He needs what you tried to give me once, a hand. Just to be told...it's ok to be him. Shockingly, you gotta see it like them two." He pointed at Donald and Thor. "No one is asking you to become drinking buddies, but...you really think Donny Boy is gonna leave Thor hung out to dry...or the opposite?"
"Even I know that lesson." Bloodhawk spoke. "He does speak truly David Banner. You always sought someone who could understand your situation. Did you ever stop to think he was too? And he needed it to start...with you?"
Xi'an smiled. "See, if he can learn that from us, you can too."
Bloodhawk sighed. "Yes, yes. Get it out Xi'an." He smirked.
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Post by Mama's Boi on Nov 15, 2019 13:01:26 GMT -7
"Like I was fun in my confusion. But it is a first good step. You saw it too huh? For a second, I think they locked eyes and it's begun to click. Maybe they are beginning to see a person instead of a problem in the other. Hulk is wrong too in his own way. Lashing out. But his is a crime of ignorance. He doesn't have a lifetime like Davey does. He wants help but he don't know how to ask, so it's a crime of ignorance." He looked at her. "He needs what you tried to give me once, a hand. Just to be told...it's ok to be him. Shockingly, you gotta see it like them two." He pointed at Donald and Thor. "No one is asking you to become drinking buddies, but...you really think Donny Boy is gonna leave Thor hung out to dry...or the opposite?" "Even I know that lesson." Bloodhawk spoke. "He does speak truly David Banner. You always sought someone who could understand your situation. Did you ever stop to think he was too? And he needed it to start...with you?" Xi'an smiled. "See, if he can learn that from us, you can too." Bloodhawk sighed. "Yes, yes. Get it out Xi'an." He smirked. "Believe me... as much as I wish I could leave Thor and the hammer, I just can't. The hammer pulls me back like a chain. My will instantly stops and makes me go back to them." said Blake. "Well... we can try to work this out. Educating..." said Banner. "And I know just the guy who can help in that regard." "You mean the green haired scientist who tried to help us the last time?" uttered Black Widow. "Exactly... if anyone can help me with the creature's education, it's Samson." said Banner.
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Post by President Doom on Nov 15, 2019 13:43:17 GMT -7
Jamie smiled. "I had a guy who tried to help me who took some clases with him. Didn't unmake that one. He was polite and sincere." Jamie paused and waved a hand. "Baby steps, just remade all the bad shrinks I ever unmade, with warnings to be more honest and care...cuz I on;y zapped people in it for cash." He looked at Betsy. "See, already on a curve upwards. Now, I could come along so he can be there too. Might even talk with him about the pills. Would be good to get a buyer fer the old Krakoan coffers to fiil."
He looked at Betsy. "Don't worry, I'm still a son of England at heart. Just...gotta pay what I owe."
"I think it is good. David, you are handling this well. If only more people can face themselves like this and be so strong." Cerebra showed a small smile.
"Holy shock. Shakti smiled." Henri said.
She rolled her eyes. "Shut up Henri."
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Post by Mama's Boi on Nov 15, 2019 15:11:38 GMT -7
Jamie smiled. "I had a guy who tried to help me who took some clases with him. Didn't unmake that one. He was polite and sincere." Jamie paused and waved a hand. "Baby steps, just remade all the bad shrinks I ever unmade, with warnings to be more honest and care...cuz I on;y zapped people in it for cash." He looked at Betsy. "See, already on a curve upwards. Now, I could come along so he can be there too. Might even talk with him about the pills. Would be good to get a buyer fer the old Krakoan coffers to fiil." He looked at Betsy. "Don't worry, I'm still a son of England at heart. Just...gotta pay what I owe." "I think it is good. David, you are handling this well. If only more people can face themselves like this and be so strong." Cerebra showed a small smile. "Holy shock. Shakti smiled." Henri said. She rolled her eyes. "Shut up Henri." "Well... all these years having the creature within me have made me less impulsive and more thoughtful. Impulsiveness is the reason why I ended up like this. I experimented on myself just to gain that strength that all humans have... little did I know that I was overdosing myself with 20000 gamma units. I thought they were 2000, but the machine wasn't calibrated accordingly." said David to Cerebra. "Understandable, brother... I'm just glad that you're turning yourself around... that just gives me so much pride." said Psylocke.
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